Gravite 2H > C. Dragon Scimitar

[Cake N Spoon]

My G2H mathematically is made to have more DPM (Damage Per Minute) than a corrupt dragon scimitar and has a greater chance of KOing the person I pile. It even has more bonuses than a whip.

(17:41:57) -[DK]RuneScript- *** [ ITEM STATS ]: Abyssal whip: [Attack] Stab: 0 | Slash: +82 | Crush: 0 | Magic: 0 | Range: 0 [Defense] Stab: 0 | Slash: 0 | Crush: 0 | Magic: 0 | Range: 0 | Summon: 0 [Other] Strength: +82.0 | Prayer: 0 | Range Str: 0.0 | Melee Absorb: 0 | Magic Absorb: 0 | Ranged Absorb: 0 | Magic Damage Bonus: 0

Although not faster, the coding behind the G2H (I'd go into it, but I doubt a lot of you have knowledge of coding) is made for it to be a better weapon than the corrupt dragon scimitar.

To touch on the basics of Runescape:

If you didn't know, you get two rolls when you're about to attack and attempt to inflict damage. We can say these rolls are on a 100 sided die. The first roll determines your damage (as evident by how swift gloves can fire double 0's) and it ranges from 1-100. The code, since this is Java that Runescape is run on, determines if you hit high or low based on set percentages (i.e.: if roll1>90 proceed hit approximately(maxhit) in which approximately and maxhit are other calculators to your damage.). The code then goes onto determine your accuracy which uses a more complicated formula based on defense and attack levels, but that formula's more negligible for pures because our defense is extremely low and most of us have pretty high attack.

In weapons like the dragon scimitar, the attack bonus is smaller and the strength bonus is smaller therefore it will in fact, when calculated into the more complex formulas that determine your attack and strength, be less likely to actually hit say a 300 than a gravite 2h, or even hit at all due to its bonuses. I'd go into some more, but cbf.

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[konka]

noob

[Jonny]

I read it and disagree. If 3 people run at me with gravite 2h, they hit me once and I pray melee. If 3 people run at me with d scims, they more likely hit me twice and Ko me. Also after hitting with gravite and then switching back to range, you lose too much time.

When I f2p stake against pures I do use the d scim. I always win when hitting two times over 250 which does happen often. With the gravite people can hit twice a 300+ on me and I can tank it with pizzas.

Edit: I am 60 attack only and speak from personal experience. I agree when fighting people with def that the gravite 2h may own more, not so on clans such MM though

Edited October 9, 2012 by lch Jonny

[Andrew]

gotta disagree with you on this one

d scim has more dps

also less to worry about getting def

[One Flame]

you said def is negligible because we're pures

so the attack bonus difference shouldn't matter much

+24 strength bonus vs +66 strength bonus (extra damage with 2h vs extra attack with scim)

even at this rate scim only has to hit a half extra attack to beat out the 2h

right?

[R 4 P 1 D Z]

i use d scim but i like using g2h more just cus i like it

[Camel Jockey]

d scim is master race

[l JUNIORz l]

ooo nice

[Ultra]

Edited October 10, 2012 by Ultra

[Cake N Spoon]

you said def is negligible because we're pures

so the attack bonus difference shouldn't matter much

+24 strength bonus vs +66 strength bonus (extra damage with 2h vs extra attack with scim)

even at this rate scim only has to hit a half extra attack to beat out the 2h

right?

Attack bonus matters because that factor is input into the coding of your accuracy. The scimitar's accuracy is harshly different due to the change in attack styles and the change in attack bonuses. This gravite 2h vs corrupt dragon scimitar conflict can be compared to the conflict between a chaotic rapier and a chaotic maul; the rapier being good for putting damage onto someone however the chaotic maul having the advantage in terms of more frequent, higher hits.

I read it and disagree. If 3 people run at me with gravite 2h, they hit me once and I pray melee. If 3 people run at me with d scims, they more likely hit me twice and Ko me. Also after hitting with gravite and then switching back to range, you lose too much time.

When I f2p stake against pures I do use the d scim. I always win when hitting two times over 250 which does happen often. With the gravite people can hit twice a 300+ on me and I can tank it with pizzas.

Edit: I am 60 attack only and speak from personal experience. I agree when fighting people with def that the gravite 2h may own more, not so on clans such MM though

In F2P, provided you're warring properly, you should be in a clump of people incapable of knowing how many g2h's are going to swing at you at once. The G2H is the maul of f2p with its capabilities of one banging people (a group of three can hit 350s easily and more accurately than a dragon scimitar).

[Dravid]

were are you getting this code for runescape? i just wanna read it

[Farmoil]

Dps over dpm

[ph0ne]

you know you fucked up with your thread when ultra has to put you out of your shame

[Camels]

Such a trivial matter.

[ph0ne]

90 str thats very slow < 66 str bonus for scim thats fast, ur hitting on monk robes dont forget that

just cus you dont put the effort in to get the best possible gear which is obviously a scim or a b'axe and rather spend shit on farming dont make a dickhead out of yourself and post this shit on the forums

[Tony]

noob :)

[sull]

fuck g2h, shit glitches for 2 defence.

[Sopuli]

g2h for beta phaggots, c d scim for alpha master race

[Cake N Spoon]

Taken directly from RS Wiki so that ya newbs can quit being brainwashed

-The Gravite 2h sword is often considered to be the most destructive PvP weapon in F2P, due to its high crush attack bonus and ideal strength bonus. Its almost unrivalled strength and crush bonuses allow it to deal heavy damage consistently through rune plate armour.

-It is recommended to use a Gravite 2h sword, if you own one, as your primary weapon in a safe PVP situation. This is due to the fact that its heavy damage potential and accuracy allows you deal consistent damage to your opponents without having to worry about your opponent eating.

-Due to its high accuracy and knock-out potential, a Gravite 2h sword user can easily dominate the first few minutes of fight, keeping any opponents on the defensive.

-The rune scimitar has a theoretical damage per minute higher than that of the Gravite 2h sword. However, this calculation only takes into the account the weapons' maximum hits and weapon speed. In reality, the rune scimitar's low attack bonuses often prevent it from out-performing the Gravite 2h, especially when both players are using rune armour or Corrupt dragon armour.

Do you see what other factors contribute to warring yet or are you still worried about your carelessness with def?

[Fears BFF]

Ok

[Mortuls]

Catch me with a d scim

Dps pls

[Lucifaux]

Is this thread a joke? It has been proven time and time again that every successful attack you make you have an equal chance of hitting any possible damage. e.g. If your max with a g2h is 335 you have a 1/335 chance of hitting 218, or 19, or 1, or 335. Back in 2010 I immediately doubted the claim that g2h has a higher dps than a rune scim. I've tested the average damage done by a g2h and rune scim over the sample size of several thousand attacks and found that unsurprisingly each weapon had an average damage of half their max hit. Thus rune scim > g2h in terms of dps. And you claim a g2h > d scim?

Of course this test was done against somebody with a negligible defence.

Your claim that "a g2h is proven to have more DPM than a d scim" is false. Looks like you're reading too much RS Wiki without know what the fuck you're talking about. "G2H > Rune scim" This only applies on exceptionally high defence opponents where the accuracy bonus from the g2h's crush attack defeats the less accurate d scim. And in case you're wondering, this is basically somebody in full rune who has a high defence level than your attack.

A g2h is basically a slightly more powerful version of the dragon battleaxe (+5 str and +17 accuracy when crushing). G2H is only slightly better than a dbaxe. There's a reason why in members everybody pks with a d scim and nobody pks with a dbaxe....Every DPS calculator (and anybody who isn't retarded) will tell you that D Scim > D Baxe. Your claim that a +5 str and +17 accuracy bonus in a style YOU WON'T EVEN BEING USING MOST OF THE TIME suddenly makes the weapon amazing is retarded.

Also a g2h only has a higher probability of KO'ing somebody in a pile in exceptional circumstances. People dont risk hp in wars like in 1v1 situations. KO'ing occurs when a MULTIPLE people pile the same person. And MULTIPLE people with dscims >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MULTIPLE people with g2hs..

But feel free to prove me wrong by using a dragon battleaxe in a p2p war or through actual evidence about your claims regarding Runescape's coding...

[Its zeh noob]

^ pures can't wear dbaxes. But u did good.

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