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I've done my research like 3 years ago and what I have said so far does work with me. 75kg and 8% bodyfat, I only bulked 1 time for 2months and never did it again cauz for ME it does not work. It is way better to actually do the 6meals a day while doing cardio every single day after a 45mins-1hour workout, never took anything other than a gainer ONCE, and yet as an ectomorph I've gained 20kg in the last 3years. You bros just have your own opinion and I have mine. I am not giving the wrong advice. You perhaps are the one who is giving the wrong advice considering that you told him to buy "some serious gear" lol like.. what the fuck. Im trying to keep it respectful tho.